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  • TisRis

    Attention!

    The minimum dance cover requirement on the Odorite Wiki Page Requirements for both Nico Nico Douga and YouTube Odorite have been raised from a minimum of 4 dance covers either solo or group to a minimum of 10 dance covers either solo or group.

    Thank you.

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  • TisRis

    I've just noticed that the dancer infoboxes have an error where the YTCHonly is not showing up. I'll try to fix this as soon as possible.

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  • TisRis

    Wiki Activity

    April 28, 2016 by TisRis

    Hey all!

    I've noticed that the wiki activity is slow again. It seems all of us are busy. I feel like a bad admin for not being around much. I'm thinking about naming another admin - someone who is active. Unfortunately, no one seems to be very active lately.

    Someone respond to this blog post so I know you're still alive?

    -Iris

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  • Marshmallowface

    As a odorite fan, I am a giant miumelochin shipper, but recently I hear that something happened bewtween them. Melonchin did something that hurt Miume's feelings, but I don't know what that thing is. Does anyone know about this, or is this jusy a rumor? I hope there's more miumelochin out there.

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  • TisRis

    New Polls on the Front Page!

    February 26, 2016 by TisRis

    Hello all!

    I made new polls on the front page! The theme is favorite iconic cutesy dances from 2010-2011 and 2015-2016. I'm hoping they can show how much odottemita has evolved over the years! You can definitely see the change in video quality, fashion styles, and trends. Nevertheless, odottemita hasa still preserved the encouraging essence that anyone can try dancing!

    It was a little tricky to write the 2015-2016 poll, since it's only 2 months into 2016 (highly limiting the timeframe in comparison to the 2010-2011 poll). It was tempting to add 2014 iconic choreography as well! 2014 was definitely a huge year for iconic choreography. I may add that as a poll later~

    Head on over to the front page to cast your vote!

    Next poll theme will be iconi…

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  • TisRis

    I just coded the  at the top of the pages.

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  • TisRis

    I just coded a place for "Other Dance Status" in infoboxes. The variable is called "otherstatus." This is used for dancers who have dance activies outside of odottemita. For example, (idk if this is true or not) Nyantaro may be:


    which displays

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  • TisRis

    Originally, I had said that we shouldn't list different choreos on the same page. But I think it's too messy to title the pages "Koshitantan (Casppper)" "Koshitantan (K'suke)" and so on and then use disambuguition articles. Also it'd be cool to list multiple choreos on the same page so if someone likes a song, they can find several options of dances to learn.

    An example of Famous Odottemita Dances that use the same song would be:

    • Koshitantan by Casppper
    • Koshitantan by K'suke (musumen ver.)
    • Koshitantan by ATY

    I have coded a template to apply mulitple choreographers on the same song using the Utaite Wiki's Song Covers > Song Chorus bar. At the moment, the bar only takes 3 different dances. If a 4th or more is needed, please contact me so I can co…

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  • TisRis

    Polls on Articles

    December 15, 2015 by TisRis

    I noticed that the vocaloid wiki includes polls on their articles (see Hatsune Miku's page for an example). I was wondering if this is something you guys are interested in as well? For units we could poll favorite member. For solo we could poll favorite characteristic? It could be a fun interactive thing to add to the wiki and potentially increase wiki traffic. The polls on the front page were recieved pretty well.

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  • Jadehlee

    Hello! Like my masterpost of YouTube channels I made a while back, I thought it would be a good idea to have all odorite social media in one place, including odorite's who don't have pages yet, so people don't have to jump between all the articles to find them all. I've put YouTube channels on here again so it's all together, and included Ririri and Takkun (AMU's brother) as well, but if anyone objects I can take them off.

    Tbh I've probably missed off a lot, so if there's someone or something I missed, let me know and I'll include them!







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  • TisRis

    The musumen image policy has brought to my attention that we should include a Special Notices heading for odorite articles. I provided an example below. Do you know of any other subheadings to Special Notices we could add other than Image/Video Reposting? Also I think we should revise our current headings to this layout because it's neater, more professional, and shows up a lot better in the Table of Contents. I strongly belive we should add Name info in the concept bc some odorites need to mention it. It's a huge part of an odorite's concept and should not be alongside trivia. Also it gets messy keeping all this in the info boxes. This new layout follows the layout of many professional wikis. I have tried out this on the morning musumen. page…

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  • Mizomizore

    Hello Everyone!

    Recently Morning Musumen has posted an official FAQ page , including information regarding usage of their images. Here is a summary of their statement:


    Musumen forbids the following:

    1. Reposting of official photos, including but not limited to:
      • images/screenshots from DVD's
      • magazine scans
      • promotional photos
      • other official material
    2. Usage of ANY photos (official, personal, or self created) for SNS/social media icons, including but not limited to:
      • profile avatars
      • icons
      • banners
      • background images
      • other SNS/social media images

    Musumen allows the following:

    1. Sharing images you have created yourself, including:
      • Your OWN fan art (may be used for SNS/social media icons)
      • Photos of them you have personally taken at events (keep in mind that you still cannot…


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  • TisRis

    YouTube has another new Channel Link format.

    The current ones are:

    • YouTube.com/user/UserName (ytusername)
    • YouTube.com/channel/LongSeries-ofRandomlyAssignedLettersandNumbers (YTCHonly)
    • YouTube.com/c/ChannelName (not a valid input for Infobox_dancer)

    The problem with the last format is that the neither the YTCHonly or ytusername input couldn't accept the links for /c/ChannelName. I ended up tweaking the Template:Infobox_dancer a little (see that page's history for details) to allow typing it into the ytusername input. Unfortunately, unlike YTCHonly, you can't type in a display text and you're stuck with any channel names to display whatever you type in (for example c/EmpireDance on the eMpiRe page).

    I can make a new input field where we accept a …

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  • TisRis

    I recently coded a notice and preloaded templates to appear when creating new pages. This will save the time of copying and pasting from the layouts page!


    1. Click "Contribute" in the upper right corner of any page (right above the navigation bar).
    2. Select "Add a Page" from the dropdown menu.
    3. Name your page & Choose Standard layout.
    4. In the classic editor, preloaded templates for Solo Dancer, Dance Unit, Popular Choreography, Competition Event, and Performance Event will be available for selection.
    5. Please do not use the default format (with 2 videos on the right). Only use the provided preloaded templates below the yellow notice.
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  • TisRis

    Top 10 Lists glitch?

    November 8, 2015 by TisRis

    I just recently enabled Top 10 Lists and created a test page with the morning musumen members. However whenever I try to delete the page or edit it, it logs me off and says I need to be logged in to complete the action. Anyone know what's up? Does this happen to anyone else?

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  • TisRis

    I just added 2 polls to the front page of the wiki (under the commumity header), but I'm not sure if the answer choices are relevant enough. What do you guys think of them? Should I change them? And to what?

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  • Mizomizore

    I kinda disapeared again, So I just wanted to say sorry once again for being away OTL

    I am keeping up to date with odotemitta stuff and there are things for the wiki I plan to create/work on , though I am taking three difficult courses right now so between homework and work I just have not had the time put them up OTL.

    I do check the wiki atleast every other day so if you ever have questions feel free to leave a post on my wall.

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  • TisRis

    Since a few odorites have them I added the option to input it into the infobox. It won't show up if you don't put anything in. I don't know who has them, so I only fixed Miume 's for now. It'd be a great help for anyone to add them (and delete the link listed in external links)


    Adding it is as simple as adding their NND ID, mylist, community, or YouTube usernames. See Miume's page for an example of the implemented code.

    • Edit in visual editor
    • Edit infobox
    • Scroll to find "NNDchannel" slot
    • Input the part of the link after the forward slash
      • To input this link http://ch.nicovideo.jp/miume-ume
      • only input "miume-ume"

    If you have any questions feel free to ask!

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  • TisRis

    Non-odorites

    October 6, 2015 by TisRis

    Recently, a page was created for an idol. I have created a template notice (calleed Template:Non) for non-odorite pages to go at the top of such articles.

    • For an idol who qualifies as an odorite, add  label.
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  • TisRis

    Sorry For Being Inactive!

    October 5, 2015 by TisRis

    I just wanted to apologize for being so inactive! I've been extremely busy and I know that just checking on the wiki will lead me into writing a new code or mass updating articles (which means accidentally pulling an all nighter)!

    If you need anything Admin related, talk to Mizo (who usually messages me if she needs my input). If it's important, you have a quick question, or I'm taking too long to approve something, tweet or fb message me!

    • Message me (preferred contact): https://www.facebook.com/adventuresofoctopus
    • Tweet me (slower & public): https://twitter.com/tismeIris

    I'm the one who checks the eMpiRe messages, otherwise the other members will sign their names. Also my twitter is linked on my Wikia profile, and my eMpiRe facebook link is i…

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  • Mizomizore

    Hello everyone! (owo)/

    I've been kinda inactive for the past 2-3 (?!?) weeks. This was partially due to vacation but also because of some personal matters that I have been dealing with so I haven't been able to make edits to the wiki.

    I just wanted to apologize for the sudden lack of activity and I will try to be a bit more active from now on.

    - Mizo

    *edit*

    I thought I would just add on to this instead of creating a new journal but I've been having internet troubbles and also have still been going through personal things so once again sorry for being inactive OTL I didn't exactly plan on disapearing for awhile so I feel bad.

    I would also like to thank Jadehlee for being so active on the wiki recently! You are a really big help, Thank you so much…

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  • TisRis

    The ban on DANCEROID members' pages has been lifted!

    The pages were initially prohibited from the wiki by the former admins, as there was an existing DANCEROID and Kozue Aikawa wiki. Since those wikis have been abandoned for over a year and DANCEROID has split up, Kozue and DANCEROID member pages are now encouraged for creation, expansion, and activity!

    This does not include Q'ulle, as that is rather an idol group than odottemita group.

    Please check if a DANCEROID member already has a page before creating one.

    Happy editing!

    ~Iris

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  • TisRis

    New admins

    June 26, 2015 by TisRis

    We have a hopeful future for the wiki to grow and expand! Thank you everyone who has contributed to the wiki and to the future wiki editors!

    ~Iris

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  • Mizomizore

    As seen on the Arsmagna page for example:

    For anyone adding information to a group page about each member of the group, You can find the code for the show/collapse function on This Wiki Page

    It is under the subheadding "Selecting collapsible content " towards the end and has red text in it.

    You do not need to include the "This text should be visible as well. </div>" part of the code, which should be at the end of it

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  • TisRis

    I recently discovered the ability to use  and other templates here

    This could potentially solve a few problems.






    This doesn't work as well in leading to other wikis unfortunately, which was my original intention.


    How should we apply this template?

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  • Mizomizore

    Inactive rule

    June 14, 2015 by Mizomizore

    Hello (owo)/

    This is just an idea but I think we should set a rule where if a dancer or dance group is inactive for a year and has not made an official disbandment announcement that they will be considered inactive as a group.

    I've been starting to notice some pages that the dancer(s) haven't uploaded or have done any activity under that name in over a year so I think that its safe to say if its been a year and they have not done any new works they will be considered Inactive as a dancer/dancegroup.

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  • TisRis

    NOTICE: This page has been moved to Odorite_Wiki:Page_Requirements for future editing

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  • TisRis

    So what we currently have is:

    • A minimum of 100 subscribers
    • A minimum of 1,000 views on his/her most popular dance cover (not vlog, tutorial, etc.)

    And the new ones are in question:

    • A minimum of 300 subscribers (potentially may allow rounding up from 290, but not 289)
    • A minimum of 2,000 views on his/her most popular dance cover (not performance clip, vlog, tutorial, etc.)
    • EITHER:
      • A miminum of 10 serious dance covers (not casual cover, performance clip, vlog, tutorial, etc.)
      • OR actively uploading 1 serious dance cover a month for 6 months (not casual cover, performance clip, vlog, tutorial, etc.)
    • ​Must have a page nominated for creation by someone other than their/his/herself

    Alternative choices can mix and match with the above (though I perfer the above select…

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  • TisRis

    I noticed that people haven't been following the YouTube Odorite Requirements ...

    Let me remind everyone it was:

    • A minimum of 100 subscribers
    • A minimum of 1,000 views on his/her most popular dance cover (not vlog, tutorial, etc.)

    Since no one is regulating it I feel like we should either lower it to those already on the wiki, or completely forget about it. The point of it was to make sure the odorite is established before a page creation. I'm supposed to regulate the pages, but I don't have admin priviledges to enforce or advertise it, nor do I have the time to regulate too many pages. Meanwile the admin is kind of gone... I feel like we need another one, considering both 2 haven't been on in months.

    New proposal would be 

    • A minimum of 100 subsc…
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  • Mizomizore

    AdelaideBliss

    June 1, 2015 by Mizomizore

    Hello everyone (owo)/

    AdelaideBliss is a youtube dancer with over 20,000 subscribers and I saw her name on the page request list but If I recall correctly I believe she said she is on hiatus/quit and as even said on tumblr herethat she is selling her camera that she uses to record videos so I assume she does not plan on returning. So would she still qualify for a page even though she does not dance anymore?

    I am also a fan of her channel though there are many active nico/youtube dancers who still have yet to be made a page so I guess my question is if someone is inactive should we still make a page for them?

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  • TisRis

    Sup guys

    April 23, 2015 by TisRis

    Wow the wiki has grown a lot! I've been quite busy and will probably only edit the wiki occasionally now. So I'm very glad more and more users keep coming! I'm very glad because I use this and the other related wikis as resources often! This also goes to show how much odottemita in general has grown in popularity.

    I haven't been on in quite some time and I've noticed Jadehlee has done so much in so little time! Haha she now passed both my accounts and ranks number 1 on the wiki which really just shows how much work she's put into it :)

    I've been too busy to make my own odottemita videos lately and even watch some. The eMpiRe and Florence pages have been lacking and aren't up to date anymore. I was one of the main users to update YouTube Od…

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  • TisRis

    Interesting Maid Cafe

    February 18, 2015 by TisRis

    This convention maid cafe put on a rather unique show if anyone is interested in maid cafes... As a dancer, I think this is funny because it's true.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEZL_T-ODBI

    Dancers I know:

    Butters (the main freestyling girl in glasses), Tiffany, Cherry, Ami. I can't say the names of all of them though.

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  • TisRis

    Odorite Wiki Users Poll

    February 17, 2015 by TisRis

    Wow! The odorite wiki has been growing in popularity a lot more recently! We get more and more users making accounts! This is really cool. I'm glad people are helping expand the wiki!

    I'm just curious what time zone you guys live in? I understand if you don't want to share due to privacy concerns and who is TisRis and why is she so nosy . I live in the Pacific Time Zone by the way, which is easy to figure out if one cares enough.

    Also no one really mentions their gender here. It shouldn't really matter, but I guess I should refer to everyone with the generic pronoun  "ze." Does anyone use that pronoun? I am a female (obviously), so I suppose feminine pronouns will do. But I don't really care either way. I can be refered to as a he or a she a…

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  • TisRis

    Questioning the wiki 1

    February 14, 2015 by TisRis

    What always baffled me was in the list of covered dances, when the dancer collaborates with someone we say feat. dancer and collaborator.  For example, on Melochin's page it would say something like:

    1. "PONPONPON" feat. Melochin and Miume (YYYY.MM.DD)

    Why even say feat. Melochin? It's on his page in his list of covered dances, so obviously he's featured in it. It's just extra typing time for redundant information. It's always bothered me that I have to do this... I hate creating the lists because it's effortful and draining for me. So typing the own dancers name always bothers me. And another thing,"featuring" in this context to me personally implies that "oh yeah these people were also in this cover" sooo yeahhh


    Also this isn't exclusively …


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  • Jadehlee

    Odorite YouTube channels

    February 13, 2015 by Jadehlee

    I thought having like a masterpost of odorite's YouTube channels on here would be a good idea, but I wasn't sure where we'd put it or anything, so I thought to just put it on here for now as a resource. These are just the ones that I'm subscribed to, so there'll probably be some missing, so add any else that you know. I don't really know any Youdorites either other than AriKi, but I expect that TisRis will :D

    Also, I've put Ririri on here because I figured it's just a link to her channel so theres no actual info or anything about her. I can take it down if anyone objects.

    • Aikawa Kozue
    • Akyari
    • AMU, Second Channel
    • Arasa5
    • Ari。Ki
    • ARSMAGNA
    • Ashibuto Penta
    • AiZe
    • Bookie
    • BoopBoopBeeDoop
    • Butsudan Kamen
    • *Chocolate Bomb
    • Color Pointe
    • Cozmosse
    • DANCEROID
    • Gets/Tora-san
    • Iku…
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  • TisRis

    Wiki Improvements

    February 11, 2015 by TisRis

    Hey guys! There are some unsolved threads in the forum! Since there are more active users on here, I thought I'd open some of them up again

    The utaite wiki has a page for reprinters. The odorite wiki needs articles for them as well.

    Why was the PCF channel deleted?

    Many odorites have been starting to sing as well. How do we handle this?

    Do utaite's forbidden reprints apply to odottemita videos as well? How do we handle this on the wiki?

    Let's discuss a few of these so we can improve the overall quality of the wiki. Of course, the admin hasn't been active in awhile, and s/he might need to approve of some ideas. The goal stated on the front page is to try to make the odorite wiki look similar to the utaite wiki, so that's where I'm headed with th…

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  • Mizomizore

    Odottemita Off?

    February 10, 2015 by Mizomizore

    Hello (owo)/

    So I recently found this while browsing around twitter and I thought it might be an interesting topic of discussion : http://info.nicovideo.jp/odottemitaoff/index.html

    Apparently on March 1st there will be a new event being held called Odottemita Off.  I believe they said this was also related to a similar  nico dance festival event last year.

    It looks like there filming some group dances and were recruiting people for it and there are also going to be preformers doing originally choreographed dances as well.

    It seems cool, I am definitely looking forward to seeing this!

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  • TisRis

    Miumelochin

    February 9, 2015 by TisRis

    Photo (the point of this blog post):

    Hahaha I'm such a dork for making this. But I paused the video of 1, 2 Fanclub to see Melochin's shirt go up and I instantly thought of this.

    https://twitter.com/tismeRis/status/564739780559114241

    Personal Rant of Melochin (added bonus):

    Oddly, the only time I'm insanely attracted to Melochin is in this video. I've never been much of a Melochin fan. I can't pull off his cute choreography and his hip hop style doesn't speak to me. He's really really cute in 1, 2 Fanclub though! It's his hair and face and clothes and his shirt goes up every 10 seconds and he has such a cute tiny waist ;u; also I love his facial expressions I just can't explain the love. This was the first video I shipped Miume and Melochin.…

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  • TisRis

    There seems to be a mysterious anonymous wikia contributor contributing a lot to the odorite wiki!

    With all that work, I feel like the anon deserves some credit and should make an account... Unless s/he wants to be a secret underdog or something haha.

    Really though, I'm very curious to see who this person is. S/he has a wide range of odorite awareness....

    Please come out of the shadows!

    Reveal yourself!

    This pose from "Bad Apple" though....

    ~Iris (from EMpiRe)

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  • Mizomizore

    Hello (owo)/

    I guess this also corresponds with my previous post about Utaite's who do not want their songs reposted but I have started to notice that some Odorite's are starting to post in their video descriptions and such that they do not want their videos reposted as well ( Like ARSMAGNA ) . Should we start making a list of the Odorite's who don't want their stuff reposted?

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  • Meo3chan

    Odorite vs. Utaite

    January 20, 2015 by Meo3chan

    I haven't appreciated NND much until recently, alhough I knew about ARSMAGNA for a long time ago. In fact, this Odorite site was the first wikia page related to NND I enjoyed. However at this time, I don't think to become a member here. Up until now, after the time I'm sinking to the world of utaite, i do come back here.

    just feeling a little bit of disappointed since there is even no page for the little girl Ririri. Nah, I wanna do st to make this site looks better but i don't believe in my English now so no main description can be written by me. I just can update the lists, the images, the songs collections... whatever that is not require to make wall of text ♒((⇀‸↼))♒ 

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  • TisRis

    Meeting Odorite

    January 8, 2015 by TisRis

    Have you ever wondered what your favorite odorite is like in person?

    When Ari。Ki was invited to perform at Cho Party 3 with Te☆in! last spring (2014), Ki wrote several blog posts about their experience, especially about meeting odorites!


    Post 1: http://mirakuruki.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-05-24T10:07:00-04:00&max-results=1&reverse-paginate=true

    Post 2: http://mirakuruki.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-07-14T11:41:00-04:00&max-results=1&reverse-paginate=true

    Post 3: http://mirakuruki.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-09-08T17:10:00-04:00&max-results=1&reverse-paginate=true

    Post 4: http://mirakuruki.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-09-09T09:37:00-04:00&max-results=1&reverse-paginate=true

    Collaboration performance with Tei☆in…


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  • TisRis

    (Hmm... I'm curious if anon Wikia Contributors read user blogs?)

    If you don't want to read this long blog on some history of the odorite wiki and my personal encounter with it, skip to the last paragraphs (in bold). But there are some shout outs.

    Wow...

    I was exploring the site (what else is there to do at 6 am when you're caught up with the latest musumen videos, tired of studying/adding odorite's dance styles to pages, and haven't gone to sleep for the night yet), and I discovered the history of the odorite wiki!

    I feel like it sounds like I did some serious digging and research.... All I did was real the talk page for the front page (because reading random users' 2 year old conversations on the internet is appealing).The conversations were…

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  • TisRis

    Moved From TismeRis

    December 27, 2014 by TisRis

    I know it's not that big of a deal, I just want people to know that I am the same person as before, also the original Iris leader of eMpiRe dance group. I hope to not spam the users of the odorite wiki with something rather more personal such as this, so this is a blog post.

    I deleted my Facebook account, and my TismeRis account was connected to it. Therefore I created a new account not connected with Facebook.

    Thank you for reading.

    -Iris

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  • Mizomizore

    Song Reposting

    December 12, 2014 by Mizomizore

    Hello (owo)/

    There are several utaite's who do not allow their songs to be reposted on to other websites. ( Someone made a list of them here  )

    I was wondering if this list should be featured on the odorite wiki as well? Because I'm pretty sure this means you cannot use their songs in dance covers too if they are reposted on websites other than NND.

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  • TismeRis

    Heyo!

    The utaite wiki has requirements to keep the wiki neat and clean. If there are too many YouTube odorite pages on the wiki, they may become hard to regulate and the Odorite Wiki may become messy.

    The average YouTube odorite has about 100-600 subscribers. Really good ones manage about 800-5,000.

    Since YouTube odorites aren't as popular as YouTube Utaites, the requirements should be lower than those on the Utaite Wiki.

    The requirements for YouTube Odorites:

    • A minimum of 100 subscribers
    • A minimum of 1,000 views on his/her most popular dance cover (not vlog, tutorial, etc.)


    Thank you for your cooperation!

    ~Ris Ventures

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  • TismeRis

    YouTube Odorites

    November 5, 2014 by TismeRis

    Hello to anyone who reads these! b(^ . ^)d

    I'm not sure if anyone on here actually cares about YouTube odorites... Well if it sparks your interest, Heavenly Light (the main leader of CosStarDance, Sector51, Dance Masters United, and more) and Ari。Ki have choreography videos on NND that make it to the top 100 rankings. And Ari。Ki (who has over 2,000 subscribers on YouTube) wasinvited to Japan's Cho Party 3 to share the stage  with other odorites such as Miume , morning musumen.  , and namely Tei☆in!  (whom they performed with). They also speak Japanese and tweet odorites.

    I have been meaning to create a lot more YouTube Odorite wiki pages, but I've been swamped with school and dance group activities! I hope to make one for many more, but next…

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  • TismeRis

    First Blog Post

    November 1, 2014 by TismeRis

    Hello!

    I hope everyone is doing well! I figured I should try out making a simple blog post. v(^ . ~)☆

    So I've been going through some articles and adding galleries to the ones I can. Are they helpful? I surely hope so. I personally love the galleries on the pages.

    I find it amusing how Melochin is super popular yet does not have a trivia section. Hopefully soon! I can't read/speak/write Japanese, so it'd be a lot easier to read than his twitter (^^;)

    Thank you for reading my first blog post!







    Much Love,

    ~Ris
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  • Bluemask

    I just realized, watching a dance is entertaining but what if you understood the song and how the choreography came about?

    I just re-watched every dance I liked and combined it with subs. It was a delight and everything comes to an understanding I have never realized before. So far I think it's good. Watching them with English dubs is a good alternative too, to be honest (English dubs sometimes omit words, changing the thought entirely. Not always though).

    I wish I had better things to do >_>.

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  • Bluemask

    Just kidding! LOL.

    Honestly, though... I'm taling about the new videos. The same videos just stay the same for months in the Odottemita Ranking. We need more original dances! BOOO!!!

    Oh.. and I'm the only one who think Melochin is overrated?? Pffftt. *Waits for headshot*

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